DarkAmbient schrieb:


Seems to me you haven't found your sound yet. Sample 1 is a raw noise thing. Sample 2 starts with an intro, quite promising like it could develop into a valid dark ambient song but then turns into an introverted minimal piano piece. Likewise three with the accustic guitar and the drone -- please don't get mad at me -- which sounds a bit home-made. Don't get me wrong: If it comes from your inner self and expresses your feelings, it's the right music to play. It's all a matter of audience, if you want to release. Minimal stuff isn't easy to do, because there are not so much parameters to get it to the boundaries of the known musical universe. And nothing less has to be the goal when trying to put a CD on the market nowadays.

The question is: What do you do with the critique from thos people? Does it affect you and push you to try something new or are they of no concern to you? Doing music for or in front of an audience is a difficult thing. Not only must you know what kind of music you want to produce, but you need to find your listeners and anticipate what they expect (but you should never completely fulfill these expectations). It's the right balance between individuality and common sense. Avantgarde and pop. Revolutionary new memes and ages-old heritage. Got to position yourself in the field to be recognized. It's true: Some musicians who had success for some reason sold their soul in the process and lost their identity. Some few had so much influence that they warped the field around them and were not able to identify themselves in it any more. Others geniuity was only recognized after their death, because their work was that much incommensurable at that time. These are the possible fates for those dedicating their live to music. Now its your turn to choose.

Maybe you want to use the comp project as a play ground and maybe something results from it.

vile schrieb:
I'd be inspired as hell if someone commented my early works the way our admin did! Looking forward to hearing more music from Kaesentod-chan!

megatone schrieb:
I think I would have a problem with providing a 32bit/96khz master. My soundcard supports only 24/96khz. Would a 24/96 master be alright?

I can guarantee a good sounding. I already have an idea for a contribution, something with classical/symphonic elements as I practiced a lot this year with several tracks, something in the type of Alien 3 soundtrack, combined with some good customly designed ambiental sounds, with an intense dramatic feel and a deep dark introspective isolationist atmosphere so that it would fit into the dark ambient idiom. The theme that I intend to use is one of the most beautiful romanian fairytales, "Youth without elderness" (Tinerete fara batrinete), about a hero that goes in a quest for eternal youth, but enters the forbidden Valley of Sorrow and so he loses his immortality. It could be an interesting challenge for me, but I think I really could do it.

DarkAmbient schrieb:
Hmm, don't understand. If critique just leaves you in apathy, why would you ask someone to say what's on his mind -- be it in strong words or kind? Wouldn't be very encouraging for me to be responsible for your apathy.

Kaesentod-chan schrieb:
Would it 'hurt' you of some-one said it sucked?

If you use a surround, that effect is voided which to me is rather essential in dark ambient and other 'wall of sound' forms of music. Not sure how many on this board share my view but I've met a couple.

DarkAmbient schrieb:

It wouldn't hurt me, but I wouldn't find it very helpful and it would disqualify this person to some degree and would show no respect for the effort of others.

If you insist that your tracks develop very slowly, which creates the depth of it, what do you expect from posting those little snippets?

If you like Vol. 1, you should keep connected here and simply see what happens. Maybe it will result in a track that perfectly fits in the compilation without abandoning your ideals. Maybe it gives you a reason to create music beyond just fighting boredom and if this fertilizes your creativity in a complete different way so that no track of yours is on the comp, it wouldn't be too bad, would it?

All except me seem to share your view more or less. But I have to admit 5.1 is completely useless or counterproductive, if using headphones, and that it is possible to create very intensive surround effects with stereo. The most recent addition to this stream, Tholen's "Sternklang", is a good example for this. (The one behind Tholen, someone called Eisen, does Dark Ambient as well as Black Metal, by the way. Would be interesting if he would like your music ) Anyhow, 5.1 may be a dead end for music productions. It seems to have quite a bad reputation. Yesterday I received a 5.1 remixed DVD of NIN's "The Downward Spiral". The surround mix (labeled "Dolby Surround" rather than "Dolby Digital" -- which alone shows the dilettantism involved in this product) was nothing less than a catastrophe. If you like, read my Amazon review (in German). With not quite as much dilettantism (at least I think), I am currently experimenting with surround effects that are already involved during sound design and first results are promising (but don't expect results to be heard publicly soon -- if at all). Anyhow, I think the topic 5.1 is off the desk for Vol. 2.

Svartsinn schrieb:
Maybe I will be forced back to PC, haha.

JR